Our Love, Hate Relationship with Comic Culture

Love/Hate x Unglossy: Jokes, Stakes, and Superhero Mistakes

• Pete Rock, Mickey Factz, Tat Wza, Bun B, Tom Frank, Jeffrey Sledge • Season 2 • Episode 21

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When Wonder Man tried to get clever, the crew split fast. Bun B, Tom Frank, and Jeffrey Sledge join Tat Wza, Mickey Factz, and Pete Rock for part two of this special crossover—so if you missed part one, catch it over on Unglossy. Together they break down why clarity beats chaos, how humor became the MCU’s Achilles’ heel, and what happens when villains lose their menace. From Bun’s Deadpool variant dreams and wild Spider-Man theories to a detour through Marvel Zombies and What If, this episode dives deep into the balance between jokes, stakes, and storytelling that actually sticks. Smart takes, sharp laughs, no capes required.

Our Love, Hate Relationship with Comic Culture is hosted by Pete Rock, Tat Wza and Mickey Facts, edited by Tom Frank and brought to you by Merrick Studios. Find the show on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you catch your podcasts. Dive all in a https://wearemerrickstudios.com

SPEAKER_08:

Yo, I'm Mickey Fax. Yo, I'm Tad Wizard. I'm Pete Rock. And this is our love-hate relationship with comic culture. Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to our love-hate relationship with comic culture. I am the co-host, Nikki Fact.

SPEAKER_09:

I'm Tat Wizzer. And I'm Pete Rock.

SPEAKER_08:

And we have three legendary guests with us. On top of the fact that I have a bed behind me. I am in New York City currently, so I apologize for all of those with a bed post behind me. But we have our executive producer on the horn today. You guys get a chance to see who this guy is. My guy Frank. Look at him. I have my guy, Jeffrey Sledge. Super, super educated, accomplished music, executive, manager, everything that you can think of. We got everything. You know what I'm saying? Renaissance, man.

SPEAKER_07:

Happy to be here.

SPEAKER_08:

Thank you for those compliments, Pete. You're welcome, sir. Last but not least, we got Big Bro in the building. We got a Houston legend, burger connoisseur, super lyricist, flyest guy that I know south of the Mason Dixon. That's right. My guy Bun B in the building. Nice.

SPEAKER_05:

Thank you so much for having me. I'll take that. That's high praise. I'll take that. Absolutely, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08:

So we are going to be talking comic culture today with our friends, and we're happy for you guys to be here with us. But before we get started, we have we're gonna have a trailer that just came out and we're gonna react to it. And we're gonna put time on the clock because it came out at 12 o'clock. We're watching it at 1.30. I want this out at 3 o'clock on all social media platforms, Tom. So we can be in the algorithm. All right. No pressure. This is the first time we're doing this. Let's watch the Wonderman trailer together as a family. Let's go. Here we go.

SPEAKER_00:

The entertainment world is stunned today when internationally celebrated and reclusive filmmaker Von Kovac sprung out of retirement to sign on for his first franchise film and remake of Wonderman. Mr. Von Kovac, thank you so much for joining us.

SPEAKER_04:

Thank you for that. I know the question is why one more superhero film? Everyone is styled superheroes. Why go see them in the cinema? Wonderman spoke to me on deep level. There is an opportunity to shock the audience. Holy to reimagine the whole genre of storytelling.

SPEAKER_00:

Have you given any thought about casting?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh pretty interesting. Alright, so so okay, so let's get thoughts. Let's let's start with chat. Tat, what are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_09:

Okay, so first thing I thought was, oh, there's gonna be jokes in this, so Pete and Mickey are gonna hate this. The second thing, the second thing was I saw uh some connective tissue sitting in the chair. Uh Ben Kingsley, right, is his name? Uh Trevor from Iron Man series, who is the Mandarin. Huh? Mandarin. Mandarin, I couldn't remember the Ten Rings. Right. The real the real Mandarin is the Ten Rings from Shang-Chi, but he's the fake one. So there's the connective tissue there. So it's like, okay, well, what else it makes me think, well, what else with him being there, are they gonna bring in some Shang-Chi or some Iron Man level stuff or whatever? And then um the costume that was the other one, like the the movie Wonderman was, I believe that was one of the original Wonderman costumes, so that was kind of dope. I don't know. I'm I'm gonna give it space. I know uh I like the lead actor that's gonna be playing Wonder Man, who's the little boy sitting in the chair, but he's gonna be grown up when we get to see him in the series. Yaya is his name. Um I'm I'm I'm excited to see this. He also played Black Manta, also.

SPEAKER_06:

He also played Black Manta, yep.

SPEAKER_09:

Aquaman.

SPEAKER_07:

He actually was also what was the movie Yes.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, Watchman, yeah.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, and Mr. Mr. Manhattan and Mr. Manhattan and Dr.

SPEAKER_08:

Manhattan. Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Dr.

SPEAKER_09:

Manhattan, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, Pete Rock, what are your thoughts, brother? I mean, it looks interesting. I saw, like Tat said, some connective tissue between the Mandarin guys and then you know, Iron Man. And I don't know. I just I really have to see more. It was kind of a quick trailer. I just see more.

SPEAKER_07:

Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

But I like what I've seen so far.

SPEAKER_09:

An odd trailer.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, it's weird.

SPEAKER_09:

You know, like it's an origin story trailer.

SPEAKER_08:

You know what? Okay, yeah, and then I just want to see what what the movie is gonna turn into in the trailer a little bit. Well, it's a series, but yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, it's a series. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, Tom, what are your thoughts? I thought it was weird. I thought it was a very weird trailer. I didn't know what was going on. I don't really know Marvel Man or uh what's the name Wonder Man that well, so I was a little can I was a little confused. Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

Like two and one joints. I got him on two in one.

SPEAKER_07:

Jeff. I feel I'm the same as Tom. I'm not really up on Wonderman, so I'm just kind of watching it, but I don't really know the history or the backstory or anything, so I'm just I'm really, really kind of seeing it for the uh one this Wonder Man character for the first time. I'm not up on him at all.

SPEAKER_02:

I thought it was a misprint. I was waiting for Wonder Woman to come out.

SPEAKER_08:

No. There's Wonder Man Marvel books. I have some.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh no, yeah. I believe that I'm just not up. I'm just on it. Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

And Bun. I have no care to see this. I have no care. And and let me move, let me move this. Let me move this this camera because I got my my iPad's about to go dead. I don't know. Here's the thing. They gotta be digging pretty deep in the archives to bring up this shit.

SPEAKER_08:

To Wonder Man. To Wonder Man.

SPEAKER_05:

They gotta I I I I've never I've never heard this name. Right? I've never heard this name. And again, this could be just pure ignorance on my side. Again, this could all be just blatant ignorance on my side. But I feel like I feel like there's a lot of shit that Disney's doing that's really just going over a lot of people's heads. Yep. Like echo. Yep.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, the echo thing.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, there's just a lot of this stuff that's going over people. I have no desire to see this. And Yaya's an amazing actor. He's good in everything he does. He made Aquaman watchable. Yep. Absolutely. Did you like him in Matrix?

SPEAKER_07:

You liked him in Matrix?

SPEAKER_05:

No, I didn't like that film at all.

SPEAKER_09:

So that film was bad.

SPEAKER_05:

The idea of them making that film was absolutely redundant, in my opinion. I didn't like, to be honest, I didn't like Revolutions. I didn't like the third Matrix movie at all. I didn't like Revolutions. So, you know, so yeah, so it's just no, no. This this right here, this right here, nigga, don't nobody want to see this. Don't nobody want to see this. Ain't nobody, I don't, I don't know who's in the the Marvel chat room. Right? Like, I don't know where y'all go to discuss this type of shit, but I know y'all ain't in there. Who's fighting for this?

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah. Nah, nobody, really.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm curious. I'm curious. Who's fighting for this?

SPEAKER_08:

That guy, you see that guy with his hand up? He listened. He is the epitome of love in the love-hate relationship with comic book culture. Why did you why did you like that? Okay, let me let me say let me hold on. Let me say my thoughts on the trailer. So I know about Wonder Man, but I'm I'm not a fan of that trailer. I think that it was a very if they were trying to sell people, and Ted, I think this is something that you should really pay attention to. Because Bun, Jeffrey, and Talent, they are the regular consumer. They are the people that are looking at this like, hey, I like Marvel, but I don't I don't know about this. And I think that's important to kind of pay attention to. There was nothing that was attention grabbing in that in that trailer. It looked silly. Looked also, there was a meta vibe to it. It was like they're shooting a television, they're shooting a movie. It's a television series and they're shooting a movie about it that we're watching. You know, and then the character, the main character who's gonna be Wonder Man is watching the movie that they're shooting while we're watching him watch the movie. It's just too much. Is that how it went in the case?

SPEAKER_09:

That's why I said it's the origin story, and it's not a trailer, it's a teaser, but that's why I said it's an origin story because they're showing you okay, this is why this character is excited about this thing that he ends up becoming. Yeah, he ends up becoming Wonder Man.

SPEAKER_05:

Can I say, can I say something? Can I speak to this? Of course. Because again, I don't know anything about any of this type of shit, but that's what you guys are discussing, so forgive me for my blatant ignorance for this space. The the guy, the director, the first face we see, I'm blown away. I don't want to see it. You are totally not. I didn't like his performance in Superman.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, that was the same guy from Superman. Yeah, I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't like the moves in that, which tells me I don't think I'm gonna I don't think he's a great actor. I get it. He's a he's an archetype, right? Yeah, that they always want to put in. So he's gonna play some foreign stereotype in this movie. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't really care about that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Is that to do with the bow cut?

SPEAKER_07:

Is that him?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, no, the guy with the the old man with the older guy, the crazy older guy with the stringy hair. Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_09:

He was the leader in Superman, the uh the name of the leader of the doing dirty work with Lux. Yeah. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's right. Okay, okay. Is this is this this it's because I don't know anything about this. You seem like you know a pretty good amount about this. Is this how we're supposed to be introduced to this character? Um it's a choice. Because it's a teaser, right? This is a teaser. So I'm sure the full trailer will give a lot more explanation.

SPEAKER_09:

The teaser's for you. Marvel doesn't know that Mickey and Pete don't like jokes. So they they thought that they were giving it to meet uh Mickey and Pete as well, pause, but they're not because they don't like the jokes, right? But other than that part, yeah, this is like it's very meta. It's very like, oh, here's, you know, let's show you why Simon, who is Wonder Man's name, becomes enamored with the thought of Wonderman. I don't know his origin enough to know that he watched Wonderman growing up, so I don't know if that's necessarily sticking to the comics or somebody's taking create creative liberties with that part. But I think when we get to seeing Wonderman himself and his powers, it's gonna be crazy. Now, to me, knowing some of the comic stuff is very interesting that they decided to make Wonderman Black because he has relationships like like marriage-level relationships with Wanda Maximoff at one point. He's in the uh West Coast Avengers. He's the he's not a side character, he's a kind of big character if you were into those comics. So a leading character. Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm gonna ask it. So the premise, right? The premise is that Wonder Man is like a TV show or a movie? He's an actor. So Wonderman is a no, I'm talking about the original Wonder Man, not the guy that's watching it.

SPEAKER_09:

No, but the original Wonderman is the whole character, the character is an actor.

SPEAKER_05:

The character is a very important many comics. Okay, so I'm I'm just gonna be blunt. I'm just gonna get to it. Why the fuck is this a superhero movie if the niggas is actors? I'm sorry, if these people if these people are just actors, he gets powers, Wonder Man.

SPEAKER_09:

Okay, that's what we want to see. I'm out. That's what we want to see. How that happens. I'm out.

SPEAKER_08:

Why don't we just read a lot of it? What kind of power he has? It's like, okay, so he's super strong in vulnerability. He's got a believe it or not, I'm walking on the end. He's got energy, it's like division. Division, I didn't like that series. I didn't like that series. I don't know. Can we do it out this character? Wonderful like this character.

SPEAKER_05:

Can we do it out this character? Is this character capital to anything? No.

SPEAKER_09:

Yes, if they do West Coast Avengers, yes. Hey, hey Jeff Fletch. This is what I deal with.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, let me ask you this tat. I'm gonna refer to Tat because Mickey's already signed out.

SPEAKER_08:

Which Dear Devil you talking about?

SPEAKER_05:

If they don't, if they don't go to West Coast Avengers, the new the if they don't go to West Coast Avengers, where does this guy live?

SPEAKER_09:

Wow. You know, where does this guy live? It depends on all right, it's something Stan Lee said a long time. It depends on how they write it. Because whether you want your character the win or lose, also always depends on how the writer writes it. So it depends on where he's gonna go, depends on how they write it. I think they absolutely are gonna go West Coast Avengers. They've already introduced White Vision. Wanda's in the thing, and they're gonna do a reset, so we'll get her back. I think they're definitely gonna do a version of West Coast, they're gonna do a version of everything that they have in order to keep the MCU running as long as it can because it's a business model now. It's not just a fan base anymore or you know, uh fan service or whatever. It it's they're gonna keep pumping out content because they have it. So they're absolutely gonna go to West Coast Adventures. Now the question will be whether this hits or miss, and then if it misses, when they go to West Coast Adventures, because at some point they'll be like, all right, well, they're not liking this right now. We gotta do some more, we gotta get them in, we'll put them in some serious stuff, we'll put them in this. It looks like they took creative license with this series that they're gonna make some fun with it, you know.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm a sandat.

SPEAKER_09:

I get it.

SPEAKER_05:

So does white vis is this the perfect place for white vision to re-enter? It probably I would say there's if we don't see white vision, we don't go West Coast Avengers. I don't know where else they bring him in.

SPEAKER_09:

Well, we already have white vision and vision has to happen.

SPEAKER_05:

No, no, we have, I'm saying, but he's never come back. Remember, he just looked into this guy.

SPEAKER_09:

But they have a uh Greenlit already working on series called Vision that he's in. And they're gonna have all so there's a high likelihood that he will make a cameo, and at the very least, there's gonna be a reference toward it. Connective tissue, yep.

SPEAKER_05:

All right, that that's what I'm that's what I'm at, because that's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_08:

Connective tissue is important. It is, it really connects. Oh, the greatest American hero.

SPEAKER_09:

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, he was an idiot. He was an idiot. I love that show though. Funny though. He was an idiot, though. That's old school. I mean, listen, listen, listen, listen. I I get it, I get it, chat. You love anything that Marvel puts out.

SPEAKER_07:

But this trailer, this trailer was on my that was on mic's shot. That was this trailer.

SPEAKER_08:

It wasn't light.

SPEAKER_09:

That was that was this trailer was he tried to baseball the back of it. He tried to light good. Hey. This trailer's a dog. How would y'all feel about Adamantium is back there? Oh.

SPEAKER_05:

How do you feel about as far as a tier? What it where where does this land?

SPEAKER_09:

This is E. E tier. Like if they see you as tiered. It's a level of content that they're delivering to the fan base. That's why it's a TV show. It's not a movie. It's not high-level tier, but it's like if you're into the culture or into this thing and you watch this, when they go to put him in the movie somewhere, you now know, oh, that's son from the show, you know. And probably when it happens in the movie, you may say, I didn't like him in the show, but this is kind of crazy. That's probably how it happens.

SPEAKER_05:

I've never said that so far with this Marvel TV stuff. Like, like I said, I didn't understand Echo. I didn't understand Iron Fist. I didn't.

SPEAKER_09:

No, no, no. Iron Fist, now see, Iron Fist is is my hulk, like how Pete is. Iron Fist is not in the MCU yet. What they did with Iron Fist before the MCU is atrocious. And they need to fix that immediately.

SPEAKER_08:

That was bad.

SPEAKER_09:

That was real bad. That was a Netflix. That was Marvel testing the water for when they popped off the MCU, how the fan base was going to take it. And because the fan base ate it up in Netflix, they said, yo, this is another sign that we got to go full force on our own.

SPEAKER_08:

Is this thing on? It's trash, Tat. Stop. It's just Jessica Jones. Jessica Jones was trash. Let's call it Blunderman. Blunderman, it's a dud. It's an E-less show. Nobody likes it but you. Like, what are we doing here, bro? It's doodle. It's wet doodle. Let's send it, man. Wet doodle is crazy. Crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

That's the worst of the worst, bro. The worst of the worst.

SPEAKER_10:

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SPEAKER_05:

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SPEAKER_10:

And now, back to the show.

SPEAKER_08:

We got some guests here. So now that we got a chance to see the see that, we got our people in the building. Apparently, there's a cliffhanger with my guy Bum B that he is an actual variant comic book character. Is it Marvel or DC? Which one is it? It's Marvel. Okay. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to give everyone a chance to take a guess as to which comic book character it is. Alright, and we're going to start off with Pete. Pete, who do you think is the variant that Bun B is playing in the Marvel comic universe? Wow. Iron Fist? He says Iron Fist. Is it Ironfist? Is it Ironfist? Okay.

SPEAKER_07:

Alright. Yeah. Wow. I'm going to say I know what I said.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, I was going to say.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay. Is it the thing? Stop angering? Okay, go to the thing.

SPEAKER_09:

Alright. I did look it up, so I know it is, but that's not who I would have guessed. I was gonna guess Power Man, but I know it's not that. But yeah, that's I don't even know who that is.

SPEAKER_05:

So Luke Cage. Oh, Luke Cage, I know Luke Cage.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, Powerman. That's who I would have thought. But I know it's not that.

SPEAKER_05:

Is that another name for him?

SPEAKER_09:

Powerman is his superhero name. Luke Cage is his real character name, I guess. His government. His government in the care in the comics. His name is Carl.

SPEAKER_07:

Shit.

SPEAKER_09:

Luke Cage. You know what? That's right. Because he has a sordid history, right? He comes from Harlem. Yeah, he has a brother. He was a Diamondback with one time.

SPEAKER_08:

Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

Tom, do you know?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know the answer. Uh Nintendo. I guess.

SPEAKER_05:

That's DC D anyway.

SPEAKER_08:

I'm trying to think of who it could it be. Falcon? Falcon. Is it Falcon? Okay, so my guess is War Machine. Because he already said Luke Cage. War Machine. Are you War Machine? I am not. Okay, so we are all wrong. Bun, tell us who is your variant in the Marvel comic universe.

SPEAKER_05:

The crazy thing is, it's not just me, it's UGK. Because I asked to be a part of it with UGK, not by myself. So it's actually a variant on myself and on Pimp. Okay. And they're both Deadpool.

SPEAKER_08:

Deadpool. Oh. Why didn't I think of that?

SPEAKER_05:

Why didn't I why didn't Wow, okay. I knew that. So in 2018, Marvel was doing the variant, the hip-hop variants. Right? They had like the roots is the Avengers, they had a couple of things. And I ended up being in a Rembrandt toothpaste commercial with three other people. One of them was an editor for Marvel, and she's actually the co-creator of Miss Marvel.

SPEAKER_09:

Fire. I love that, by the way. They don't, but I do.

SPEAKER_05:

So I reached out. I was talking to her the day and didn't reach out. I was talking to her. I was like, I see a lot of hip-hop people doing like comic books. Is there any way like I could get one of those? She was like, yeah, I think that it's a longer campaign, so they're they're gonna do a couple more people. I think I can make that work. And she was like, anybody you would want to be, Deadpool. Wow. Wow, absolutely. Deadpool. And so it's a and it's crazy because the variant that they used is my album Trill. This is my first solo album, which next week we're doing the 20th anniversary celebration of that album. Congratulations. And so the album cover of it is is really like a very, very tight shot. The whole cover is my face. I got it. I got it. Right. Right. And so for that one, and they they it they said trill. Like the variant says trill across the front of it, and it's Pool's face. Like all up in the literally a replication of my album cover. And they did the same thing for Pimp C. You know what I'm saying? And what they did with him is there's a basically Pimp had an album cover, it was a posthumous album cover that had him in a meat coat in front of a Cadillac with a bunch of women. And so they put Deadpool in the same meat coat in front of the car with all the different people next to him. And they were they were really, really well done. They got received. Um, I don't know if there's any really impopular. There we go. That looked like the Mac, though. Oh, I see it. I see it. I see it. Let me get bigger. Yep. There you go. So it's the naked soul of Sweet Jones deep pockets of Wade Wilson. And you can see who's around him. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06:

That's fire. That is fire. Fire.

SPEAKER_05:

Like they really, they really went in on this thing. Like, they really went in to replicate five lovers. But also make them distinctly Deadpool.

SPEAKER_08:

And you see the guns on on a Pimpsy's car. Very fire. Very, very fire. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I actually I think this is a great segue for a question before we get into some news. If you guys could be comic variants, who would you guys be? Not to appear in the movies, like you guys said, but Pete, who would you be? Blackbolt. Deadpool, you said? Blackbolt. Oh, Blackbolt? Yes. Look at that. That's actually a good one. That's a real good one.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes. Why? Why? You like the costume? I I'm a variant in Marvel as Blackbolt.

SPEAKER_06:

Look at that. Here we go.

SPEAKER_08:

Look that up, Tat and pull it up so they can see this. Marvel variant, Pete Rock, Peace Ramentals, Blackbolt is going like this. Wow. That's why I love it. One whisper from his voice and he crushed it. Destruction. Destruction. Jeff, they stunting on us, B. They stunting. Yeah, they're going crazy right now. Wow. That's a great look, man.

SPEAKER_05:

Look, we put the work in. What you want us to do?

SPEAKER_08:

You know what it is? They ain't called me. So you know what? You absolutely right. I ain't got the answer to say.

SPEAKER_05:

It ain't over. It ain't over though. But look how you talk. Look how you're talking. They might have had you peg for Wonder Man.

SPEAKER_09:

Maybe not. It's like, well, we was gonna, but now we say that's it.

SPEAKER_06:

That's dope. That is instrumentals. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05:

That's dope.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. That's dope.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I was like, and he's gotta make instrumentals because if he uses his voice.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Soul everything. Okay. So it makes sense that Black Bolt would just make beats. Yep. And just be like on some shh to the rappers. Okay, good. We've been blessed with some Soul Brother number one bars every now and then. We've been blessed with. Come on now. Monumental. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08:

Who would you be, uh Jeff? Jeff, who would you be?

SPEAKER_07:

I'm gonna keep it black. I'm gonna say a variant of Killmonger. Killmonger. Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

You really like Killmonger. You really like Killmonger, don't you?

SPEAKER_07:

I really like Killmonger, man. He was fighting for something. Yeah, he was a militant. He was like it was it was almost a Malcolm Martin kind of thing. Like he was more militant, but he he had a point. He had some points. He had some valid points.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

You know, he was he was definitely Malcolm to Child S. Martin for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, it's a little crazy, but he had he had valid points, especially with the with the artwork, with our with the artwork stealing, which is very prominent. It's like on brand, you know. So yeah, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say uh Killmonger.

SPEAKER_08:

Apocalypse. Wow. That's a good one. And no one really talks about him.

SPEAKER_09:

I mean he's one of the he's one of the most dangerous. One of the most dangerous. Yeah, he's a fierce one.

SPEAKER_08:

I I can't front. I feel bad. All right, Tom, Tom, what's yours? Spider-Man. Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, don't you see me playing Spider-Man?

SPEAKER_08:

I can see you playing Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I see you upside down with your mask halfway and you're doing this. Yeah. I'm walking around. I'm walking around. You don't know I'm Spider-Man, but I'm Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yep. I was I would say you're a little closer to Uncle Ben, but I'll give you that. I ain't gonna hold you on that. That's a good one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_08:

All right. That's funny. So I would want to be a variant of cable. Okay. It sucks that you said apocalypse. Um, that's why I was like, oh man, fighting each other. Come on, man. You gotta battle. That's crazy. I mean, Tom actually looks more like Professor X than anybody, really. Worried. Word.

SPEAKER_07:

Never thought about the channel.

SPEAKER_05:

Yo, Mickey, let me ask you, what did you think about Apocalypse in the movie? Terrible.

SPEAKER_10:

Horrible. That seems to be the running theme with Nikki.

SPEAKER_05:

I've been setting him up. I'm soft pitching. I'm underhand pitching the Mickey at this point. I gotta figure it out.

SPEAKER_09:

Can we go back to the can we go back to distincting that that was pre-MCU?

SPEAKER_08:

That was the Fox universe.

SPEAKER_09:

We have not gotten an apocalypse in the MCU yet.

SPEAKER_08:

I think he's coming in the X-Men saga. Pause. What about Weapon X? That was a good scene. That wasn't in that movie. It was a good scene in a bad movie. He went crazy. Yeah, he went crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

What about cable in Deadpool?

SPEAKER_08:

You good with that? Yeah, yeah. So I thought Josh Brolin did pretty good as cable. I actually enjoyed him in Deadpool 2. He did well. And so did Domino. She was really good in that movie as well. I would have liked to seen Meff's take on it, though. You know, on some rap shit. I thought he was trying to be bishop. So Method Man let us know that he was he was training to be bishop about that.

SPEAKER_05:

There's room for that. If that's something they're looking to write into something, there's room for Method. They have to. He's definitely capable. He's definitely capable of that.

SPEAKER_08:

He's definitely capable, I agree. No, no, bishop. He he wants to play bishop. No, I said capable. Definitely capable. You saying capable. Capable. Capable.

SPEAKER_05:

Method is definitely capable of playing bishop. Absolutely, is what I'm saying. Absolutely. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_08:

That would be fire. That would be fire. Okay, some quick news. Daredevil and Black Widow has just been announced to be in the new Spider-Man movie.

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_08:

Well, Daredevil was already in the last one, so that makes sense, I guess.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, but how does Black Windows? How does this work for Black Widow? So that's Yelena.

SPEAKER_08:

Which Black Widow? The new Black.

SPEAKER_09:

Yelena.

SPEAKER_08:

Yelena, Yelena.

SPEAKER_09:

Jelena.

SPEAKER_08:

Yelena.

SPEAKER_09:

Yelena.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, the one from Thunderbolts.

SPEAKER_09:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

So is her name technically Black Widow now? New Avengers. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09:

It's a moniker. It's not like the character isn't. Like there's actually a bunch of Black Widows because they have a group of the Willows. Well, yeah, because they were all trained. They were all trained together, but I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05:

But I'm sure each of them had a I don't know.

SPEAKER_09:

The Scarlet Widow was the widow that went with the Avengers, right? But now that we know that in the MCU there's a bunch of widows, they could mix when they want. But Yelena's gonna be the widow for a while.

SPEAKER_08:

I got no problem with that. I got no problem with that. Okay, so so but Bun and Jeff, just so you guys know what's happening. Okay, and for those that are just now tuning in. Spider-Man is coming out next year. Yes. And these are the confirmed characters in the Spider-Man movie. July 2026. 2026. The trailer will be coming out in December.

SPEAKER_09:

Brand new day.

SPEAKER_08:

Daredevil, Black Widow, Punisher, The Hulk, and then he has his villains of Mr. Negative, Scorpion, boy, Scorpion, he said. Freezy Facts. Alistair, Alistair Smythe, Smythe. All of these people are gonna be in a movie. This is feeling like an Avengers movie as well.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, I'm about to say it feels like an Avengers movie. This is the one they shoot overseas.

SPEAKER_08:

Yes. They're shooting this overseas. So the thought process is that Mr. Negative is going to make the Hulk go savage. And that's why the Punisher is he's gonna be wearing the war machines outfit to stop the Hulk. And he's gonna be going through the city of New York, which is why Daredevil and Black Widow are gonna be there as well to try and stop the Hulk, while he's also fighting all of his villains in the beginning of the movie and tour. So that is why every week we're announcing new characters that they're saying is gonna be in it. And I don't know if you guys know, uh uh our guy is also casted in the movie. Crondon, he is tombstone. That's right.

SPEAKER_06:

That's right.

SPEAKER_08:

Strong arm steady, strong arm steady, baby.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, yes. That's my guy. Couldn't happen to a better guy. Could not happen to that better guy.

SPEAKER_08:

That shit was perfect casting right there. Yes. So he will be tombstone in the movie. So Spider-Man will be fighting our friend Tombstone Crondon in Spider-Man next year, which is incredible.

SPEAKER_09:

I'm hearing Gwen Stacy's also gonna be a character in the movie. Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

Gwen Stacy. This is a jam-packed, star-studded event of a film. We're all excited to see it.

SPEAKER_05:

Now, is this is this film that you're telling me with all of these characters assembled, is this something that just fits for them as a company and as a brand? Or is this part of canon? I'm I'm I'm curious.

SPEAKER_08:

This is a part of canon because they're leading up to Doom's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09:

It's leading into Doom's into the next actual Marvel Avengers movie. Right.

SPEAKER_05:

So this will lead us into Doom. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_09:

Which will be the year after.

SPEAKER_08:

Right. Well, it'll be the same year. No, the same year, the same year. Same year, same year, same year.

SPEAKER_09:

Secret Wars year after. And that's all of this is leading, all of this brand new day and doomsday is leading into Secret Wars. Yep.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah. So Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of Tom Holland is still Spider-Man. Yes. And is Mark Ruffalo still?

SPEAKER_05:

Is he still the Hulk?

SPEAKER_08:

Yes.

SPEAKER_05:

So we're finally about to see the Hulk as we've all like basically had the vision. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_10:

And that's going to be the transformation, this movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

I think he's going to become the Hulk. I really I really believe it.

SPEAKER_07:

I think he is too. I think he should have never been Professor Hulk. So.

SPEAKER_05:

So when you say savage, right? Because we've already seen like hallucinating, a hallucinating Hulk, right? That tore apart the city where Tony had to fight him in the Hulk Buster suit. When you say Mr. Negative will possibly make this guy a savage, are you saying like a pure savage? So the angry that the levels of anger that we've seen so far from the Hulk, this will escalate far beyond that. Bigger than that. Pause. Hell yeah. And typically the madder he gets, the stronger he gets. Yes. So we should see an even more higher powered Hulk. Yes. Is what you're saying. Yes. Wow, sir. So we're finally going to see Pete Hulk. Pete Hulk.

SPEAKER_07:

And Ruffalo's still, yeah. Yes. I've been fighting for this.

SPEAKER_02:

So do you think there's going to be a new character or a new actor playing the Hulk when he makes that transformation?

SPEAKER_06:

No, it's going to be Mark Ruffalo.

SPEAKER_02:

But what isn't there a rumor that he's not actually going to be in Doomsday and some of these other things?

SPEAKER_09:

He doesn't have to be in Doomsday, but he's going to be in Spider-Man. Be in Spider-Man and in Secret Wars. He's just going to skip that one. Right. They do that sometimes.

SPEAKER_05:

So he comes back down from Sakar for this?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, where's the timeline? I'm just trying to make sure. He's back, bro. He's already back from Sigar. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

He's back from because the uh She-Hulk series, he came back with his son. I thought he left again.

SPEAKER_05:

But I thought he left again. Didn't they go back?

SPEAKER_08:

I don't remember him leaving.

SPEAKER_09:

Remember they kidnapped him and then they brought him back and then.

SPEAKER_05:

He left and then he came back and he brought the son. With the son had the nasty. So he's nowhere near the law firm of She-Hulk.

SPEAKER_08:

You said you didn't want to talk about She-Hawk, right? No, you said you didn't want to talk about She-Hulk.

SPEAKER_05:

I didn't want to talk about She-Hulk either. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to find out where we are.

SPEAKER_09:

It's connective tissue in Sea Hulk, regardless of how we felt about it.

SPEAKER_08:

I hate connective tissue.

SPEAKER_05:

If you say next episode, I'm bringing Shea. But you apparently you accept everything, Tat. So I don't know. Apparently, apparently. I'm gonna tie tissue too. I think Bun B is learning you, Tat.

SPEAKER_09:

You might be gonna waive it. I do have things I don't like, but it's still better than pre-MCU. Right, right.

SPEAKER_08:

So, so so here's the here's the last question before we close this thing out. Pete Rock. Yes, sir. Have you watched Marvel Zombies? Of course. Fire. You saw Infinity Hawk! I saw Infinity Hawk and I saw Man. Listen, bro. And I saw Spidey in episode three. That was fire. And Homegirl, Hawkeye. Uh what's her name? What's her name that's Hawkeye's daughter? Uh K Bisher. Yeah, that was the second episode, but the third one. And then when Banner got dead, is when I was like, holy fucking shit. This motherfucker's about to be immortalized.

SPEAKER_09:

And you know, because he's already angry, and then zombies are like yo, he was he was punching, air punching zombie hordes away. I was like, get the damn crazy. That's the temperature that they're starting with to turn up. That's our getting us excited. Is there a new episode? It might be another season at some point. We'll see. So was it as good as these guys said it was?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, it's good. It was that good. I heard it's really good. It's really good. Nothing out of these what if worlds. Does anything out of these what if worlds come out?

SPEAKER_09:

Well, technically, the Wanda part of the zombies started in Multiverse of Madness Doctor Strange. So it is connected. It's just not necessarily it's canon, but it's not in the 616 universe. So it's not on our regular movie timeline.

SPEAKER_05:

Got it. Okay. Okay. So we're never gonna see like Moonblade in real life. Like, kind of no.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, so you watched it.

SPEAKER_09:

He saw the trailer. It was in the trailer. But yeah, and probably not Moonblade, but we are really.

SPEAKER_08:

Moonblade is fire. That's a fire name. Moonblade is fire. Moonblade. Moonblade. It was really Blade Knight. It's Moonlight and Blade Night. They called them Blade Knight. But Moonblade and Fire. They're in Midnight Suns. They're gonna be in Midnight Suns. Well, both of them, yeah, separately. Yeah. Okay. Well, listen, man, we appreciate our guests for pulling up and sharing. Thank you. Thank you. This was fun. It's a dead people guy, and we got a chance to see Blunderman's trailer. Two bads. That's terrible. That's a terrible. Yeah, I need I need to see more how he gets his powers and whatever.

SPEAKER_09:

Y'all turn around and like this, the way I'm gonna be pulling these clips up is crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

I just feel like Mickey's rejecting this on general principle.

SPEAKER_09:

Just GP.

SPEAKER_05:

Just GP. I think he just rejected it on GP. And I ain't mad at that because when I saw Buddy with the hair and he was the first one talking, let me ask you this, though.

SPEAKER_09:

Let me ask you this, bud. Let me ask you this.

SPEAKER_05:

It went around the world to get the buddy.

SPEAKER_09:

Do you not like jokes in in these movies? Like when they have like, you know, little comical things that happen in the in the writing? Does that bother you or is that all right with you?

SPEAKER_05:

No, I don't have problems with the jokes. The problems I have, and I'll speak, I'm gonna get very specific. I'm gonna speak to this Thor experiment, right? So the actor that plays Thor is Australian, right? I'm pretty sure he pushed for the director to come in because they're Kiwi. They're from New Zealand, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05:

So the proximity of those two countries, I think, lends itself to sharing a certain level of humor. So I think I think this director who comes from um the flight of the whatever the fuck it is. I think he pitched for him. I think he pushed for him to come into these movies. And I don't know who I think I think the first one worked regularly. And then I'm done. Like the split, when the nigga did the split with the bird people. Come on, bro. The bird people and the the goats. Like the goats just screaming through the whole thing.

SPEAKER_09:

The goats was annoying.

SPEAKER_05:

Man, what's the guy with the because he's a voice for the guy, the rock dude. Right? Yeah. The director is the Korg? Yeah, the voice for Korg.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

That's the beginning of that goofy ass humor. That's the beginning. Title Wakaki. Wakaki. I can't think of his name.

SPEAKER_09:

I don't want to mess his name up.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's the beginning of that goofy ass comic shit. In that, in that. And then I I bet they became. It's like, I'm telling you, you should let this guy direct. But what we do in the show is funny as hell.

SPEAKER_09:

They are.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what I'm saying. Everything else he did, it works. But those are anomalies anyway, like a comedy about vampires. That's an anomaly. You know, the independent rock group. That's like, that doesn't give any frame of reference to how you would handle a comic book movie. It just tells that you can embed. All that tells me is that you know how to embed humor.

SPEAKER_08:

Thank you, Bun.

SPEAKER_05:

Right? But now the humor, to be fair, it takes away from it. It takes away from the movie. I can't really jiggy with this shit.

SPEAKER_08:

Listen to what Bun is telling you. I'm listening to what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05:

You can't get jiggy with this shit. Here's the thing, because the humor is so strong, the drama never lands. Talk about the drama never really lands in the film. Because the humor, which is, I think is what is meant to take you out of it, doesn't ever really let it settle in.

SPEAKER_08:

Don't be for president.

unknown:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05:

Thor is not a comedic. Thor is not, and I'm not even again, I'm talking to experts. Thor is not a comedic personality. Like it wasn't. I don't think it was ever written, is that? No.

SPEAKER_09:

I feel like crying.

SPEAKER_05:

I think we're way away from what he means.

SPEAKER_08:

Are you gonna start crying, Mickey? I need some connective tissue for my for my tears. I am so happy. This is me and Bun B got connective tissue right now.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm just saying, that's just like again, and I'm I'm so far removed, right? So I don't know if these are inside jokes that I don't get. And that's why I asked earlier. This is this speaks to what I asked you guys on our podcast. Does this is this the director blowing this? Or is this fight blowing this? And that's why I say the only way he would allow some of this because the reviews have to be terrible about this about these movies, right? The reviews, the reviews have to be able to be able to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_10:

We gotta find you a pro comedian now. But it's just getting again, I got one. It's just I got one, but they're not gonna like it.

SPEAKER_05:

Like these movies are just getting into A to B.

SPEAKER_08:

I enjoyed the joke. Some of them, some of them. I enjoyed the joke in P in Black Panther when she was like, what it's and looked at his feet. That was fun.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't have a problem with humor, but you can't have so much humor. Yeah, yeah. Like the drama, the impending threat. I felt no impending threat in the last two Thor movies.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, none.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, I don't, I never saw anything that made me drop some. Oh my god. You want to talk about the waste of a character, the the God killer.

SPEAKER_09:

Gore. Gore, butcher. Yeah, they definitely dishandled that. That was my criticism.

SPEAKER_05:

The worst performance ever for arguably one of the greatest actors of our generation.

SPEAKER_08:

I will agree with you there. Is that the one that plays Punisher? The one that played Punisher too? The one he was Batman. Oh no, I thought you were talking about the Thor movie. Gore was Chris Boy that's a good one to ever do it for the last two decades.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

And let's be clear. Let's be clear. Christian Bale is a very, very deep actor, right? That that's his choice.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

That was his choice to play that that character that way. First of all, again, he also again, physically imposing.

SPEAKER_08:

But he said he said he shot a lot of scenes that were cut. And that was because of Titan.

SPEAKER_09:

But he also he also didn't want to do the prosthetics, so he wouldn't let them make him gore the God butcher the way Gore the God Butcher was supposed to look, which I think affected how it came across anyway.

SPEAKER_05:

He didn't look threatening at all. Like it was that imposing. He did not look like somebody that could kill a god. But to be fair, the way they interpreted what a god looked like was bananas anyway.

SPEAKER_08:

You already know. Like, so you already know, bro. But Thor was naked in the movie, bro. Like, what are we what are we doing here? I told you. I mean, I'm never gonna argue for that point.

SPEAKER_09:

But also not staring at the screen when he got in there. I was like, okay, I don't need to see that. All right, there we are. We're back in the back.

SPEAKER_05:

He was bucket naked.

SPEAKER_08:

Like, like it was Yeah, you turn away, and then the rest of the movies. Why do I have to? I want to see the movie. Why do I have to turn away if I pay to watch the movie, Tat? That was for the movie. You want to watch everything.

SPEAKER_09:

Some women paid 21 to see that shit.

SPEAKER_05:

I feel like the Thor movies are moving. The Thor movies are picking at very low-hanging fruit. Very.

SPEAKER_08:

I would agree.

SPEAKER_05:

They're picking at very low-hanging fruit, and I don't think, I don't think he gives a shit about story. Right? We're not learning. Here's the thing. We're not learning anything new about Thor in these movies.

SPEAKER_08:

Talk about it. It's brother's preaching.

SPEAKER_05:

The best thing they did was set up Hercules to meet. I was ready for that. Again, that was a post-credit. That's why I say it's just Kevin is like, as long as I get to what I need for the post-credit, have at it.

SPEAKER_09:

They're dead in Hercules. That's her brother's preaching.

SPEAKER_08:

I just want to say this, man. Bun, you are more than welcome to come to the love. Absolutely. For real. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05:

And give tattoo after after the whole series. I'm gonna come back.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

After Wonder Man and give Tat the the tongue lashing that he deserves. Hey, yo, hey, yo, we've been saying this. Hey, yo, yeah. Hey, yo, we've been saying this for months, and all he says is, you don't like jokes. But when Uncle Bond comes through and says it, your man is like, Well, you're right, you're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_09:

Y'all so adamant at hating without telling me why. Y'all didn't break it down like that that the drama doesn't land for you. You know, when you broke that down, the drama landed a little for me, but not I get what he's saying. Enough jokes didn't allow it to land for him. And I say, okay, that that may be a bigger swath of the public that feel that way than I was looking at. Because all y'all do is like anything. And y'all say it before y'all even see the shit. So how the fuck do I know why you don't like the shit? You know no, I can speak from a disaffected place, right?

SPEAKER_05:

Like I'm I'm not as as deep into comic books. I don't have that as part of me. So I I can come up with an opinion that isn't probably it isn't steeped in where they draw from. Right? Like the reason they don't like things that you like come from a different place.

SPEAKER_06:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05:

You know what I'm saying? So and that's why you argue their judgment because it's really your you're you have different opinions on things you all know about. I don't know about none of this shit. I just know that I'm supposed to go into a movie and enjoy a movie, and because of the laughter, whatever it was I was supposed to be concentrating on from the from the storyline, from the reason these characters are brought in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It threw me off track. I never got it's look, it's but look, uh let's be honest. They've been they've been fucking up Thor since Dark World, bro. Like, they've been fucking up Thor since no, I say this.

SPEAKER_09:

I didn't even like Thor one that many films because they only got like they've got like six movies and only two months more with Thor one. I didn't like Thor One or Dark World Ragnarok, I did like and then I was like, okay, let's give Tiger Watiti a chance because I did like Ragnarok. Then he he went a little far in Love and Thunder. I enjoyed the movie when I watched it, but do I go back and rewatch it? No.

SPEAKER_05:

I can understand why you don't like Thor One, but Thor One was a proper setup of the character. Because Thor is supposed to be Stoic. That's the thing. He's supposed to be stoic. There's only humor with Thor when people think they can fuck with him. That's all that's where the humor comes from. Right. Like, words, you really think you can fuck with this? Let's go.

SPEAKER_08:

Here's my connective tissue. The thought of thinking that you can rock with me. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. Hey, Bun.

SPEAKER_09:

You're looking at the wrong tissue, Mickey. It's tissue like in the bones, the muscles, the people that connect the body. He don't give a damn.

SPEAKER_08:

Hey, hey, hey, listen, Bun, Bun, this is an open, this is an open door policy for you. Whenever we meet force-correct tat wizard, please are the same way I am the Pete Rock.

SPEAKER_09:

Don't get upset when he comes in and he likes something.

SPEAKER_08:

I'm sure that he's going to share the same sentiments about movie making.

SPEAKER_05:

I might hate something. I might look I enjoy Aquaman for what it was. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

You know, it was over. See it. See what I'm saying? It was over. So I ain't I I'm not promised to say anything making and piss you on the horn at that.

SPEAKER_08:

I mean, but no, but no, but see, but see, Bun, you got on me earlier on y'all's show about me wanting Tony Stark to die. I had to tell I had to sit there and listen to the OG. It's just good to finally have Tat agree with somebody that says jokes ain't for us folks.

SPEAKER_09:

No, that's not what he said, though. That's not what he said. He said they overdid the jokes, but the problem isn't the jokes themselves, is that they overdid it.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, D.

SPEAKER_09:

And they would have fallen back a little bit with it. And I give you connective pictures. He's always saying I like one joke per movie. One joke per movie is crazy.

SPEAKER_07:

They took they thought Ragnarok, they kind of took that damn near Deadpool level.

SPEAKER_05:

I think what they're looking for is more dark humor, Tap.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, dark humor. Yeah, they're looking for more dark humor. Black Panther get a billion dollars. That's why. But they are trying.

SPEAKER_09:

Only one joke. They are trying to get more than just the comic fan base into the theaters. Like that's how it works, that's a business. That's how it works. So they're going to open the creative realm to be, okay, I want to go to the movies, I want to have some laughs, I want to have some cries. I want to do that.

SPEAKER_05:

Only Australia, only Australia and New Zealand is laughing. Like we're laughing at all. Let me take that back. We're laughing at door, but we're not laughing with the wrong. We're laughing at the door. We're laughing at door. I get it.

SPEAKER_08:

I get it. This is a true fact. I get it.

SPEAKER_09:

Well, it's changed. Tiger's out. Tiger's out. All right, listen, guys.

SPEAKER_08:

This was thank you. This was this was we're gonna have to have my guys back because this was a blast. I had a blast. I have a blessing. Me too. Oh my god. I can't wait to see these guys, man. So listen, man.

SPEAKER_05:

I see why they keep doing my now. I see why they do this Chicago PD, uh, Chicago fire cover up uh overlap episode. Oh yeah. I love crossover. Hell yeah. SVU. We gotta do more crossovers too. Like for real. We gotta come back.

SPEAKER_08:

After major events, after a major event, we should have it set up, Tom. Like after Wonderman, after Blunderman, we should have Brun and them come back. We should for real. All right. This is this is I am your co-host Mickey Fax. I'm Tat Wizard. I'm Pete Rock, man. And this is our love-hate relationship with comic culture. We'll see you guys next week.

unknown:

Peace.

SPEAKER_08:

Peace y'all.

SPEAKER_10:

Our love hate relationship with comic culture is hosted by Pete Rock, Mickey Fax, and Tat Wizard. It is produced and edited by Tom Frank and distributed by Merrick Studios. Follow us and leave us a comment on Instagram at Comic Culture Podcast.